Moonstone #12 - Tiger Blood Part one
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: Moonstone #12 - Tiger Blood Part one Reply with quote

 
B. Reeves Eason wrote:
I hate to point this out, and I don't want Mike Bullock to take it as a insult, but as an ardent amateur zoologist, I must mention that tigers don't live in prides. Tigers are solitary cats, and only get together with others of their own kind during the mating season. After the cubs are born, the father goes away and the mother takes care of the cubs till they're big enough to survive on their own, after which they go separate way. It's lions that live in prides, not tigers.


Certianly no insult percieved. I think you might be correct on the term "pride", however, what brought on the idea for the tigers in this story was a documentary I watched on the Discovery Channel that detailed a large group of tigers who hunted as a pack in a rainforest. Local villagers were traveling into the forest for something ( I think it was some sort plant they were using for medicinal purposes) and being picked off one by one in the darkness by tigers. It was actually very interesting and somewhat reminded me of the scene in Jurassic Park where the Raptors cooperate to hunt humans. Mix in some article I read about a theory that you could synthesize various genetic/hormonal transmitters from organs and glands and the idea went from there.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:22 am    Post subject: Re: Moonstone #12 - Tiger Blood Part one Reply with quote

 
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Honestly, I think it is time to leave the tigres, move them to India or wherever they belonge and try to forget the error mr. Falk did many years back!

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"Error"? You mean when he had the circus ship cash on the rocks of Bangalla? How's that an error?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:26 am    Post subject: Re: Moonstone #12 - Tiger Blood Part one Reply with quote

 
Mike Bullock wrote:
Ivan wrote:


Honestly, I think it is time to leave the tigres, move them to India or wherever they belonge and try to forget the error mr. Falk did many years back!

Ivan


"Error"? You mean when he had the circus ship cash on the rocks of Bangalla? How's that an error?


That was just to explain the error, did you not know that? The tigres came a bit befor that! Wink

I understand you can't use your time to read Falk, when you are busy to "write" about his character, so perhaps you are exused?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: Moonstone #12 - Tiger Blood Part one Reply with quote

 That's an interesting bit of tiger information there, Mike. Big cats will sometimes defy all previous human knowledge of their habits and do something like those tigers. I recall the famous "Man-Eaters of Tsavo," which were two African male lions that hunted humans at night. This was unusual for several reasons--female lions generally do the hunting for the pride while males protect the pride, adult male lions generally fight with each other if they meet, lions rarely eat people (as opposed to leopards and tigers), and lions generally hunt during the daytime. A movie about the Tsavo lions that came out about seven years or so ago was called "Ghosts of the Darkness;" perhaps it might be interesting to see what the Ghost Who Walks would do if he had to go up against the Ghosts of the Darkness.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Moonstone #12 - Tiger Blood Part one Reply with quote

 
B. Reeves Eason wrote:
A movie about the Tsavo lions that came out about seven years or so ago was called "Ghosts of the Darkness;" perhaps it might be interesting to see what the Ghost Who Walks would do if he had to go up against the Ghosts of the Darkness.


That was an excellent movie. It would be an interesting situation for the Ghost to walk into, wouldn't it. It's fun to sit an wonder how things such as that might play out...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Moonstone #12 - Tiger Blood Part one Reply with quote

 
Mike Bullock wrote:
B. Reeves Eason wrote:
A movie about the Tsavo lions that came out about seven years or so ago was called "Ghosts of the Darkness;" perhaps it might be interesting to see what the Ghost Who Walks would do if he had to go up against the Ghosts of the Darkness.


That was an excellent movie. It would be an interesting situation for the Ghost to walk into, wouldn't it. It's fun to sit an wonder how things such as that might play out...


I actually just watched this movie last week, it was morrbid and horrorfying.

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Honestly, I think it is time to leave the tigres, move them to India or wherever they belonge and try to forget the error mr. Falk did many years back!

Yes the tigers may have been an error from Lee falk but like most of his 'errors' they are now part of law. I do not think that getting rid of them or pretending they didnt exist will solve the issue. Also dont forget that Bengalla and the Phantoms home was in India for a few years so maybe the lions need to go back to Africa??
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Moonstone #12 - Tiger Blood Part one Reply with quote

 
germ wrote:
Yes the tigers may have been an error from Lee falk but like most of his 'errors' they are now part of law. I do not think that getting rid of them or pretending they didnt exist will solve the issue.


Well, there are some ways to do this. One is to not, even if there is one at Eden, don't use tigres active in the stories. I am sure there are a lot of other dangerous animals in Africa so there is no need for importing from India.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

 Maybe we should stop importing from Africa instead??
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

 
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Maybe we should stop importing from Africa instead??


I know you have a lot on your mind these days, but try to follow a discussion, without a lot of rubbish!!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

 
Ivan wrote:
germ wrote:
Maybe we should stop importing from Africa instead??


I know you have a lot on your mind these days, but try to follow a discussion, without a lot of rubbish!!


I could say the same to you about you wanting to get rid of one of the "key Phantom elements" which would be the tigers Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

 
germ wrote:
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Maybe we should stop importing from Africa instead??


I know you have a lot on your mind these days, but try to follow a discussion, without a lot of rubbish!!


I could say the same to you about you wanting to get rid of one of the "key Phantom elements" which would be the tigers Rolling Eyes


OK, but I started that discussion!

So what do you have in mind here? "stop importing from Africa"?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

 Well obviously the "problem" (if it is a problem) is that we have elements from both India and Africa and im assuming from your posts that the solution would be to stop importing from India but why not the other way around seeing the Phantom was based in India before he was based in Africa??

Personally I like the fact that Phantom land is so different and I would not get rid of any of the animals except maybe the dinosaurs, little people and cavemen.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

 
germ wrote:
Well obviously the "problem" (if it is a problem) is that we have elements from both India and Africa and im assuming from your posts that the solution would be to stop importing from India but why not the other way around seeing the Phantom was based in India before he was based in Africa??


Sitt down and think for a moment and the answer will come to you. A clue is that he has moved.

When Falk moved the Phantom during McCoy's run, he "forgot" about the tigres and they followed in the move. Because of the time from this was done to he saw the error, he had to come up with a explanation.

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 Are you sure Falk 'moved' the Phantom or was it more of a case of Barry changing the style of the jungle, natives and animals etc??? I say that because Barry's drawings and style was definatly more African than McCoy.
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Are you sure Falk 'moved' the Phantom or was it more of a case of Barry changing the style of the jungle, natives and animals etc??? I say that because Barry's drawings and style was definatly more African than McCoy.


I am sure!
 
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