Law of the Jungle - Moonstone GN - SPOILER INCLUDED

[germ]

 I am currently waiting for my comic store to get it in for me. I usually get my Moonstones put aside but they either sell it or forgot as when I rang up to pay for it they had sold out (which can only be a good sign). So I should be getting it this week sometime and then hopefully I can post my thoughts. Im looking forward to reading it though.
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[Dougy]

 I read it a few days back and yes, it is amazing! The ending is a realy supprise and it's quite an interesting look at The Phantom, although in a twisted perspective. Brtilliant stuff!
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[germ]

 So is it a story that you will re-read over and over again?? Like in 10 years time will we still enjoy reading it?? I guess im asking if its a true classic?
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[iarann]

 Look, I've really not read much Phantom in my time yet, and I'm a huge fan of the Moonstone stuff, and Joe Gentile gave it to me at a discount and signed it for me, so I may be biased. But the art is gorgeous, the story is really good, and the Phantom seemed very mysterious and intriguing, which is something a lot of people on this board seem to mention as a big part of the myth. I can't guarantee you'll like it. I can guarantee Ivan will hate it. But I liked it, and I will continue to read it year after year.
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[germ]

 

iarann wrote:

Look, I've really not read much Phantom in my time yet.....

I like the yet bit...
If you browse several websites and posts on this phorum you will find a few places were you can 'catch' up on Phantom lore.

iarann wrote:

But the art is gorgeous, the story is really good, and the Phantom seemed very mysterious and intriguing, which is something a lot of people on this board seem to mention as a big part of the myth. I can't guarantee you'll like it. I can guarantee Ivan will hate it. But I liked it, and I will continue to read it year after year.

I like the sound of that. I like mysteriouss and intriguing stories. Some of my all time favs dabble in this theme.
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[Dougy]

 

germ wrote:

So is it a story that you will re-read over and over again?? Like in 10 years time will we still enjoy reading it?? I guess im asking if its a true classic?

Oh yes, I'll definatly be re-reading this one! Many, many times.
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[Ivan]

 Hi

iarann wrote:

I can guarantee Ivan will hate it.

I can guarantee you don't know anything about it!

One thing pussles me! You say you have not read much about the Phantom? Well, then how can you compare? So you like Moonstone?? Well, I like the Phantom, and it is very much possible that I will "love" what Moonstone comes up with soon, who know!

But I do know this; I have not seem many fans here that have read the Phantom for very many years, who now are very happy for what Moonstone do with their hero!! Funny, is it not!

Ivan

[iarann]

 

Ivan wrote:

Hi iarann wrote: I can guarantee Ivan will hate it. I can guarantee you don't know anything about it! One thing pussles me! You say you have not read much about the Phantom? Well, then how can you compare? So you like Moonstone?? Well, I like the Phantom, and it is very much possible that I will "love" what Moonstone comes up with soon, who know! But I do know this; I have not seem many fans here that have read the Phantom for very many years, who now are very happy for what Moonstone do with their hero!! Funny, is it not! Ivan

Though I don't understand why you dislike the regular Moonstone Phantom book, you will not like this one. I am pretty sure you will like what Mike Bullock does, but believe me, this book is not for you. I don't say this to be a jerk, this comes down to the people having different taste thing, and as somber and dark as this book is, I don't think it's your forte. If I remember correctly, you were one of the ones that believed dark stories were a bad idea, and this story is nothing if not dark or tragic.

As for your comments about long time fans not liking Moonstone, I don't know. I believe in a 2005 poll on this site a Moonstone tory scored quite high. I have talked to quite a few people who do like it that have read for decades. You very well could be right though, usually fans of a long running series are very resistant to change, no matter how minor some others may see that change. You should see the arguments on a Hulk message board for example. It all comes down to different taste, as I have stated in other post.

You saying you may like what Moonstone does later does give me a lot of hope though. Even if you hate what comes out later though, that is fine and you are entitled to that opinion.. I think a lot of people on this board, not just you, don't realize how much of a difference cultural upbringing can make on what you like or dislike. It takes something truly masterful, like Lee Falk's work, to bridge that gap. It speaks volumes about the Phantom that so many fans all over the world like such different stories about the exact same character.

Back to the topic at hand, what did anyone else think? I noticed someone marked it as poor, any particular reason? I have not read much, but what I have read I love to compare with others and see what they thought. I look forward to hearing what you have to say about the book germ, I know you have been waiting to read it for a while.
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[germ]

 

iarann wrote:

I look forward to hearing what you have to say about the book germ, I know you have been waiting to read it for a while.

I was hoping I wouldve recieved it today but no luck! Maybe tomarrow, I may have to ring up teh comic shop again and make sure they have sent it
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[Trimmer]

 

iarann wrote:

As for your comments about long time fans not liking Moonstone, I don't know. I believe in a 2005 poll on this site a Moonstone tory scored quite high. I have talked to quite a few people who do like it that have read for decades. You very well could be right though, usually fans of a long running series are very resistant to change, no matter how minor some others may see that change. You should see the arguments on a Hulk message board for example. It all comes down to different taste, as I have stated in other post.

I have to put my hand up as one of those fans who is resistant to what I see as dramatic changes from Falk's Phantom. But if Phantom phans enjoy the changes good luck to them and I hope it provides a new dimention to their interest in the GWW.
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[Ivan]

 Hi

Dougy wrote:

I'm sure you've all heard of the new GN from Moonstone, The Phantom: Law of the Jungle. For those of you who may be unfamiliar with it, here is a very basic idea of the plot straight from the Moonstone site;

Here is the first "review" from a Norwegian reader:

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This was really bad, I am stunned! Guran and the Bandars actually kill a man, and acting upon a direct command from the Phantom doing it! If this actually was a good story, perhaps I would let it pass, but it is not! Even if the experiment mixing text and images is a bit exiting, I must say that using photos as originals to get a dramatic effect when drawing is a bad idea that “everyone” has stopped using! Well, I was going to give it some points, but I could not!

Am I glad I did not order it last night??

Ivan

[Dougy]

 Actualy, it's not reviled if the Bandar kill him or not. Often we have seen the Bandar threaten to do so and then, well, not. Your reviewer is putting words into the authors mouth which is highly unprofessional. Sure, the possiblility is left in the air, but thats all. It's go give the reader their "final thought."
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[Ivan]

 Hi

Dougy wrote:

It's go give the reader their "final thought."

So, what is your "final thought" then? Eternal sleep??

Ivan

[Dougy]

 If you'd bother to stop complaining for 30 seconds and picjk the book up you'd find it's a character study of the Phantom and the last page is so written as to challenge the reader to make up their own mind about the character. What if he did let the Bandar kill the villan, what is he didn't? Each option says many things about who the Phantom is and the writer chalenges you to try and think outside the box. It's what any good book does.
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[Ivan]

 

Dougy wrote:

If you'd bother to stop complaining for 30 seconds and picjk the book up you'd find it's a character study of the Phantom and the last page is so written as to challenge the reader to make up their own mind about the character. What if he did let the Bandar kill the villan, what is he didn't? Each option says many things about who the Phantom is and the writer chalenges you to try and think outside the box. It's what any good book does.

Have I "complained"? I just brought a review from a person, if he understood it wrong, no problem!

But why did I not expect you to take this in a mature way?

Just going on yuor usual way!!?? It is a bit tiresome!!

Ivan