Frew 1451 - Phoenix Reborn Pt 1

[germ]

 Writer: Claes Reimerthi
Artist: Hans Lindahl
First Published by Egmont: 13/ 2006

Boy this is looking like a good story with some good suspense, mystery and adventure.

Many questions still to be answered but I like the start of it alot. Lets hope that Claes keeps up the good work on this one.
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[Ivan]

 

germ wrote:

Writer: Claes Reimerthi Artist: Hans Lindahl First Published by Egmont: 13/ 2006 Boy this is looking like a good story with some good suspense, mystery and adventure.

Next to the Cyperspace, this is the worse that have ever come from Egmont for a long time!

Mixing the "fact" that someone, with a "stone" can live almost forever is stupid in a Phantom story! What about the Phantom himself, if "everyone" can brag and say; we simply use a magick stone to live for severel ceturies, how do you do it??

Such elements have nothing to do in the Phantom's world!

Ivan

[germ]

 

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Such elements have nothing to do in the Phantom's world!

What about the Falk stories like "The Gladiator" and "Queen Sameris XIII"???
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[Ivan]

 

germ wrote:

Quote: Such elements have nothing to do in the Phantom's world! What about the Falk stories like "The Gladiator" and "Queen Sameris XIII"???

What about them, high quality stories in a long run!! Is there a hidden connection?

Ivan

[germ]

 Well they both have people living for hundreds of years like mr Phoenix.
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[Trimmer]

 I actually enjoyed this story and I hope the series continues to keep up the same standard. I voted good (which is the highest I am able to vote for any Phantom story that was not written by Falk. If I was to vote Excellent I would feel that I was saying that a story was equal to one of Falk's ).
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[Paul Andreas]

 I loved this story. I think 2006 have so far been a very dissapointing, uninspired year for Egmont stories (compared to the excellence of 2005, at least), and finally, Reimerthi seems to have found some of the inspiration he had with terrific stories like The Redeemer.
Lindahl is brilliant, but then again, when isn't he?

But sure, if a man can live for hundreds of years because of the stone, then what is the point of the seemingly immortal Ghost Who Walks?

If lack of realism gives better and more inspired stories (like this one and Death in Cyberspace), I'm in for accepting it. There's nothing worse for me than reading Egmont stories that doesn't make me care about anything (like the recent Kinloch Island).

[Trimmer]

 I can only hope that FREW has waited until they have all the parts of the saga before they have started to publish it. I cannot understand why they start to publish stories that are more than one part, and make the consumer wait months for the next rendition??
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[Ivan]

 

Trimmer wrote:

I cannot understand why they start to publish stories that are more than one part, and make the consumer wait months for the next rendition??

Well, it is not that closely connected! The first chapter was in present time, and the next about the 10th Phantom! And the stories are well worth reading standing alone!

Ivan

[Trimmer]

 

germ wrote:

What about the Falk stories like "The Gladiator" and "Queen Sameris XIII"???

At least two other stories would fit this category of the supernatural - The Test and The Little People.
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[Ivan]

 

Trimmer wrote:

At least two other stories would fit this category of the supernatural - The Test and The Little People.

Yes, Falk did a few strange stories! His most supernatural was not his best one, and in interviews he admit he was not very proud of them, and that they were experiments!

The little peoples is a reace of aliens, and it is hard to tell if such exists or not, so..

With stating that there IS a "stone" that are able to give some a long life (longer thatn the Phatnom) I think Egmon has gone a bit far! I am not saying the story is bad, it does not fit with in the frames that the Phantom should fit into today! There is no need for Egmont to cover up their silly experiments behind the fact that Falk did some mistakes, they would be better off not doing the same mistakes again.

Ivan

[germ]

 

Ivan wrote:

it does not fit with in the frames that the Phantom should fit into today!

Honest question: Is this your ideal world or is actually the Phantoms or Egmonts???
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[Ivan]

 

germ wrote:

Ivan wrote: it does not fit with in the frames that the Phantom should fit into today! Honest question: Is this your ideal world or is actually the Phantoms or Egmonts???

I have nothing to do with Egmont! I think if you read Falk, and agree that his "frames" for the character should be used today you also agree with me! If you think that the Pahntom can operate within everything, and all nonsense are allowed, well then you have lost your soul to the Devil (or was it Moonstone)??

I always speak my opinion, who elses, but it is based on long and years of knowledge for both Falk and the Phantom!

Ivan

[Trimmer]

 

Ivan wrote:

germ wrote: Ivan wrote: it does not fit with in the frames that the Phantom should fit into today! Honest question: Is this your ideal world or is actually the Phantoms or Egmonts??? I have nothing to do with Egmont! I think if you read Falk, and agree that his "frames" for the character should be used today you also agree with me! If you think that the Pahntom can operate within everything, and all nonsense are allowed, well then you have lost your soul to the Devil (or was it Moonstone)?? I always speak my opinion, who elses, but it is based on long and years of knowledge for both Falk and the Phantom! Ivan

I think Falk's stories and now those done by other writers/artists for KFS are first and foremost to be considered Phantom folklore.

Whereas other publishers should try and maintain a traditional Phantom, but can also include their own twists as long as they are not dramatically altering the Phantom's character and his surrounds.
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[Ivan]

 

Trimmer wrote:

Whereas other publishers should try and maintain a traditional Phantom, but can also include their own twists as long as they are not dramatically altering the Phantom's character and his surrounds.

True, and that they have done! But allowing eternal life and demons living behind a mirror, and no existence of any law of nature, are all dramatically altering for a character being a normal man, sat in a "normal" world!!

Ivan